THOUGHT FOR THE DAY!

"Imperialism today is taking place in the context of...the 'universalization' of capitalism. It is not now primarily a matter of territorial conquest or direct military or colonial control. It is not now a matter of capitalist powers invading non-capitalist powers in order to bleed them dry directly and by brute force. Now it is more a matter of ensuring that the forces of the capitalist market prevail in every corner of the world (even if this means marginalizing and impoverishing parts of it), and of manipulating those market forces to the advantage of the most powerful capitalist economies and the United States in particular." ... "Military force is still central to the imperialist project, in some ways more than ever."-- Political scientist Ellen Meiksins-Wood, Z magazine Nov 1999, p26

 

HAPPY 'KICK OUT THE GOVERNMENT' DAY!!!

 

Salt Water As A Fuel...

This may be the most revolutionary invention or discovery since
fire. A man was trying to cure cancer using radio waves and
discovered that these radio waves could be used to unlock hydrogen
form oxygen in salt water. Amazing!

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Paul Sabatier, 1912 Nobel in Chem, had it right. The methanation

michaelm

process is named after him and will be used to return manned flights from Mars.

I doubt any TV channel would run it until then as solar energy is used to power the conversion of CO2 to methane and water.

The reason its definitely not on the agenda for public discourse is that the device could be domesticated which would destroy all of the electric power and oil and gas companies.

I would submit that there will be no manned trip to Mars precisely for that reason.

Obviously money is not a problem as it is public knowledge more than ever before that the flagrantly In-Your-Face, the Fed Reserve, unindicted counterfeiters of $Trillions ad lib, could, but i don't believe would, set aside a mere Billion for the project.

And there would be hundreds of millions left over, for the above reason of denying people energy autonomy.

The small flicker of that flame.

poorrichard

BTU's can be used to figure horsepower, and a horsepower is about 750 watts.. A florescent tube like that in the video might need 75 watts to light up.. One tenth of a horsepower.

Here we have this giant snorting horse pulling with all his might.. a horse cart full of firewood up a big hill.. And this flickering little fire pushing a dinky little steam engine is more than equivalent in power than one tenth of the snorting horse's pulling power?

It must cost more energy to produce the radioowaves and light the florescent tube than that little flickering flame can produce.. After all the flame is just hydrogen.

It just looks too good to be true.. So it probably isn't.

StingRay.. I have been busted at this site for posting fabulous videos about this and that.. and then in the morning wished that I never posted them.. Some of them them fakes, others nothing other than hype.

I like the idea of the invention but, I think it takes more energy to produce the microwaves than the flame can give off as heat..BTU s.

But, I'm not a scientist.. I'm a folksinger... Just a minute I will get the conversion from BTU to Horsepower and Watts.. from google.

"One horsepower is 746 W and 2545 Btu/hr"... There you go.

My first question.

StingRay

How much energy does it take to create the radio waves compared to how much energy is returned to us by burning the hydrogen released?

E R O E I ...what does it mean?

No, it is not something that those dwarfs with the funny caps sing.

It means: Energy Returned On Energy Invested

OK, what does THAT mean?

Here is an easy explanation. First, let's break this concept down into smaller chunks:

ENERGY INVESTED is this -

In order to ACQUIRE energy, it TAKES ENERGY.
In order to TRANSPORT a form of energy, TAKES ENERGY.
In order to STORE energy, TAKES ENERGY.
In order to USE energy, also TAKES ENERGY.

ENERGY RETURNED is this -

After you have taken into account all the energy used above...how MUCH ENERGY do you have left? OR How much energy does it actually COST in order to USE a particular form of energy?

http://www.eroei.com/articles/the-chain/what-is-eroei/

EROEI on oil derived from traditional, land based supergiant oil fields was estimated to be around 100:1. In other, words for every unit of energy invested in exploration and development we got 100 units of energy back. We could take one unit of that hundred to go develop 100 more units of oil energy and still have 99 units left to use as we wanted. Now that we have exploited most of the easy to get oil, todays EROEI on oil is estimated to have drooped to somewhere round 10:1 or 12:1. That means an increasing percentage of oil pumped must be used to explore and develop the oil fields and bring us new oil, leaving proportionately less as surplus to be used for fueling our economies' machinery. As we have to go further offshore, into more inhospitable regions, and use more energy intensive secondary recovery techniques to get more oil the EROEI, will continue to drop.

As it gets close to the point where it takes one barrel of oil to pump one barrel of oil out of the ground, there is an increasingly minuscule volume of oil left which we can use to run our present oil based economies.

That's why I would be interested in knowing how much energy it takes to create the radio waves that release the hydrogen to be burned, compared to the energy returned by the burning hydrogen. Obviously if it takes the same or more energy to release the hydrogen as we get from burning the hydrogen, there isn't much point to the exercise. Hopefully, there will be a useful surplus of energy left over from this process when all is said and done.

Perhaps there will be enough heat

chillyphantom

Perhaps there will be enough heat energy generated by the arguments that come out of this to heat Canadian homes through the 2008-09 winter :-p

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