Oregon standoff: Ammon Bundy, others plead not guilty; judge aims to avoid trial delay
***After the judge explained their rights to a trial and their presumption of innocence, several of the defendants directly challenged her assertions.
"It's difficult to understand the presumption of innocence when I've spent the last month in a jail cell and led around in chains wherever I go,'' Payne said.
Brown said she understood his concerns, but noted that his detention was a separate matter.
Co-defendant Ryan Bundy, standing beside his lawyer in the jury box, grabbed hold of a wireless microphone that the lawyers were passing from one to another and told the court that he shared the same reservation. He is Ammon Bundy's older brother.
"We're being treated as we're guilty,'' he said. "So I don't understand the presumption of innocence.''
Co-defendant Jason Patrick, when asked if he understood his constitutional rights, replied, "I understand I have no rights at all. You're the federal government. You're going to do whatever you want.''
And David Fry, the last to surrender to federal officers on Feb. 11, joined in, "It's weird - innocent until proven guilty - shackled up.''
(*Making the most of 'Their Day In Court' !)