REFRAMING THE GUN DEBATE | WHAT REALLY HAPPENED


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'My name is Rigoberta Menchu Tum. l am a representative of the "Vincente Menchu"[her father] Revolutionary Christians ... On 9 December 1979, my 16-year-old brother Patrocino was captured and tortured for several days and then taken with twenty other young men to the square in Chajul ... An officer of [President] Lucas Garcia's army of murderers ordered the prisoners to be paraded in a line. Then he started to insult and threaten the inhabitants of the village who were forced to come out of their houses to witness the event. I was with my mother, and we saw Patrocino; he had had his tongue cut out and his toes cut off. The officer jackal made a speech. Every time he paused the soldiers beat the Indian prisoners. When he finished his ranting, the bodies of my brother and the other prisoners were swollen bloody, unrecognizable. It was monstrous, but they were still alive. They were thrown on the ground and drenched with gasoline. The soldiers set fire to the wretched bodies with torches and the captain laughed like a hyena and forced the inhabitants of Chajul to watch. This was his objective-that they should be terrified and witness the punishment given to the "guerrillas". -- Rigoberta Menchu Tum, awarded the 1992 Nobel Peace Prize

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REFRAMING THE GUN DEBATE

If we wish to retain our second amendment rights while avoiding a direct confrontation with the government's military forces, we must win the debate in the court of public opinion. We must win the crowd, so that the crowd will carry the case for us to the halls of power.

We The People understand that the Second Amendment is about protecting the people from Tyranny in government. But the government will never publicly acknowledge this as an issue even as they clearly embark on a tyrant's program of public disarmament. And, everyone dependent on a check from the Federal Government will refuse to consider the government they are dependent on is in any way, shape, or form bad, just as a wife dependent on a husband will believe she is at fault, rather than the battering husband. Hence, a focus on defiance of tyranny will not and has not gained much traction with the general public.

It is time to re-frame the debate into terms that will prevail with the public, even with those who are dependent on checks from the government itself. Let us drop the image of defiance to government and focus the debate onto two issues; Personal protection from crime, and the link between mass violence and prescription anti-Depressants.

PROTECTION FROM CRIME

In these dark economic times, crime has become rampant, even as the budgets for civilian law enforcement are plundered to pay for wars of conquest in other lands. Home invasions are common.

Every year, more than a million and a half crimes are thwarted, halted before they can occur, by Americans using legally-owned firearms. The police, in contrast, are rarely in a position to thwart a crime in progress. Average time for a response to a 9-11 call in America is 19 minutes. You can get a pizza delivered to your home faster than that in most places. The police will show up after the crime is over, pose for newspaper pictures in their fine uniforms and shiny badges, and try to act like they are relevant to what happened.

The police, being human, are reluctant to risk their own lives by placing themselves between criminals and victims. Worse, the courts have consistently ruled that the police do not actually have a duty to protect citizens from attack by criminals.

Here are some examples.

To serve but not protect

Joseph Lozito was attacked on a New York subway train and stabbed seven times by Maksim Gelman. Two police officers, part of a team searching for Gelman, were in the driver's compartment and watched the attack, but did nothing to intervene. Lozito sued the city, but New York City attorneys argued that the police do not have an actual duty to protect citizens from violence.

Warren v. District of Columbia

This is one of the most famous cases involving the obligation of police to protect citizens from violence. Two women were upstairs in a Georgetown townhouse when they heard their roommate, a third woman, being attacked downstairs by intruders. They phoned the police several times and were assured that officers were on the way. After about 30 minutes, when their roommate’s screams had stopped, they assumed the police had finally arrived. When the two women went downstairs the intruders were still there. For the next fourteen hours the women were held captive, raped, robbed, beaten, forced to commit sexual acts upon each other, and made to submit to the sexual demands of their attackers. The three women sued the District of Columbia for failing to protect them, but D.C.’s highest court exonerated the District and its police, saying that it is a “fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen.” Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981). The case was dismissed by the trial court for failure to state a claim and the case never went to trial.

More of these cases are listed HERE

Gun bans never disarm the criminals. That is an historic fact. The public disarmaments in places like Britain and Australis triggered massive increases in crime.

So the issue is a simple one. We The People have a natural right to keep and bear arms equal if not superior to the weapons the criminals have? A recent case shows the need for superior weapons. Criminals armed with handguns invaded a home, but were chased off by a boy with an AR-15. No shots had to be fired.

We The People have a natural and legitimate right to keep and bear arms equal if not superior to the weapons the criminals have. There is no counter-argument to this, given that the police are not obligated to intercede when you are attacked.

The reality is that despite the media hype, gun deaths are only a small portion of total unnatural deaths in the United States.

As the chart above shows, non-firearm murders outnumber firearms murders and both take a distant 8th and 9th place after death by medical mistakes. Should we ban doctors? You might think so after reading the next section!

PRESCRIPTION ANTI-DEPRESSANTS

The above graphic says it all. Drunk drivers kill more people than gun owners, yet nobody suggests banning cars. We recognize that this is a drug problem, in which a drug, alcohol, causes responsible people to act irresponsibly, with fatal results.

The same is true with acts of mass violence. At least 90% of the mass shooters in these incidents in malls, churches, and theaters, were either on or withdrawing from prescription anti-depressants. It may be 100%, but in some cases, medical records of the shooters have been kept private.

Prescription psychoactive medications are a known problem. Even the manufacturers openly warn of the dangers of violence and suicide associated with their products.

The link between these drugs and violence has previously been reported on the corporate media!

Fox News: Are SSRI Antidepressants Causing School Shootings? Broadcast before the gun-grabbers sent out word to blame the guns for violence.

Another FOX news story - Antidepressants and School Shootings, Suicide, Addiction.

Michael Moore: Are SSRI Antidepressant drugs causing School Shootings?

Making a Killing: The Untold Story of Psychotropic Drugging - Full Movie

Psychiatry: An Industry of Death (FULL VERSION)

Adam Lanza, the shooter at Sandy Hook school in Newtown, was reported by a family member to have been taking Fanapt, a drug whose manufacturer warns "frequently" triggers outbursts of violence, paranoia, and poor impulse control.


Here are some more examples.

From SSRIstories above - List of school shootings known to be linked to SSRIs Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Colombine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

Jarred Viktor, age 15, stabbed his grandmother 61 times after 5 days on Paxil.

Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head.

Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet.

Kara's parents said "…. the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…")

Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)

Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.

Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."

Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.

Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.


Congress has already held hearings on this problem, but refuses to act out of fear of losing large campaign donations from pharmaceutical corporations. Corporate media has, after the brief look shown above, dropped this story out of fear of losing lucrative advertising contracts from the pharmaceutical companies.

CONCLUSION

The public who are dependent on the government for their survival will never see that government as evil. Hence gun rights activists' should avoid discussions regarding freedom against tyranny, as they will be rejected out-of-hand. Instead, we need to focus on the issue of personal protection in a nation where the police are not obligated to protect the citizens. We have a right to weapons equal or superior to the weapons the criminals are able to obtain from sources such as the Fast and Furious "gun walk" program run by the US Government, which sent military weapons into Mexico from which they came back into the United States.

Second, and even more important, we must focus on the well-documented link between acts of mass violence and prescription psychoactive medications. That these drugs cause acts of violence and suicide is beyond question. Even the manufacturers admit it. But the gun-grabbers want to scapegoat the guns. Out of fear of the people, Congress goes along with this agenda, as does the corporate media out of simple greed for pharmaceutical advertising dollars.

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